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Master son
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 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: MI MI331 |
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This route is an unsigned route but is marked by Google Maps.
Chris Bessert has included a "Rationalization" essay that includes the fate of many Michigan highways in the system including this one. for this particular one the rationale is
MDOT Kalamazoo Kalamazoo city M-331 South Kalamazoo City Limit to Michigan Ave 3.346 1998 Currently unsigned
MDOT Kalamzoo Kalamazoo city M-331 Westnedge Ave to Michigan Ave 1.516 1998 Currently unsigned; forms a one-way pair with Westnedge
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/juristrans_1998-2002.html has a cleaner version search "M-331"
NOTE: I used Wikipedia's references to find the M-DOT versions, but they were all dead links. |
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dfilpus
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A state route has to be signed to be included in CHM.
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Master son
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| dfilpus wrote: | | A state route has to be signed to be included in CHM. |
oh?  When did that get decided?
I guess this is a moot point then. Lock away. |
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rickmastfan67
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Master son wrote: | | dfilpus wrote: | | A state route has to be signed to be included in CHM. |
oh? When did that get decided?
I guess this is a moot point then. Lock away. |
This has been the case for all State Highways. |
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Master son
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| rickmastfan67 wrote: | | Master son wrote: | | dfilpus wrote: | | A state route has to be signed to be included in CHM. |
oh? When did that get decided?
I guess this is a moot point then. Lock away. |
This has been the case for all State Highways. |
Oscar explained the reasoning which were valid (take Alaska's name vs number preferences or California's segmentation method for relinquishment of control but not pulling down signs as examples) and helped me to understand it. State route databases are harder to maintain compared to the Interstates since sources are not always there or reliable. |
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oscar_voss
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Just to be clear, Alaska's issue is a lot of significant roads without route numbers at all. When we activate the new Alaska State Highways route set and other new sets still in development, they will include only numbered routes, with unnumbered routes left for another day (or year, or decade). Also, California's relinquishments issue (which we still need to resolve for that under-development state route set) will involve route segments that have been removed from the state highway system altogether, not just losing their route number signage.
Where the unsigned routes rule really comes in, is with states like Maryland and Hawaii where the state highway department assigns a route number to every little bit of pavement it maintains. Focusing on signed routes eliminates a lot of short, minor routes that usually are unimportant to non-local travelers (and apparently the highway departments think so too). |
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dfilpus
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Florida and Georgia assign a primary state highway designation to every mile of Interstate and US Highways, but the vast majority of those are unsigned. To keep the CHM data base from growing out of hand and becoming unsupportable, the requirement of state routes being signed was instituted to limit the system to state highways that drivers may actually know about.
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