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dfilpus
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Reading the document carefully, the FWHA document does not rule on whether I 73 north of I 40 is Future or full Interstate. What it does is declare that Painter Boulevard from Bryan Boulevard to US 220 to be the corridor for I 73. It removes the segment of US 220 from I 85 to I 40 from the I 73 corridor. This segment has been signed Future I 73 for years. This legitimizes the signing of I 73 along Painter Boulevard, which NCDOT put up prematurely. Now NCDOT should take down the Future I 73 signs on US 220 north of I 85.
It would appear that the corridor of I 73 northwest of the Bryan Boulevard interchange is not yet defined by FWHA. Previously, the corridor for I 73 ended at the I 40/US 220 interchange.
USRN rejected the numbering of I 73 along Painter Boulevard because FWHA had not ruled on the corridor. Now that FWHA has ruled on the corridor, NCDOT will resubmit their request. Whether USRN will rule that the segment north of I 40 is Future or Full I 73 is to be determined.
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SSummers72
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But, it says:
"Add I-73 approximately 10 miles on new alignment from I-85 south of Greensboro to Bryan Blvd West of Greensboro.
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see page 4 of NCDOT NHS Document:
http://www.ncdot.org/planning/development/TIP/nhs/pdf/NHS_Div7.pdf
NC just went through adding Bryan Blvd as a NHS route to get an approved addition of I-73 to it.
Another indication is that this segment is eligible for I.M. funds. |
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dfilpus
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And now we can delete US 117 Alternate Pineville from the maps. I'd already submitted the new US 117 along the old US 117 Alternate routing. Both were approved.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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This AASHTO document is beautiful for the statistician in me.
| Quote: | | This report contains a detailed statistical analysis of the results to the Ballot... |
then
| Quote: | | 4 completed responses were received to the Ballot... |
My day job is data analysis. I've wished for years that I could do a detailed statistical analysis with 4 data points, but never found a way.
Oh, and nice to see the verdicts all go the way they should have in the first place. |
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For the two Interstates, it's not a matter of what AASHTO votes on. It's a matter of what FHWA approves. When you boil it down to the nitty-gritty, AASHTO really has very little power, and no veto power, over Interstate numbering.
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dfilpus
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| froggie wrote: | | For the two Interstates, it's not a matter of what AASHTO votes on. It's a matter of what FHWA approves. When you boil it down to the nitty-gritty, AASHTO really has very little power, and no veto power, over Interstate numbering. |
The first post in this thread pointed to an NCDOT page that points to the FHWA approval letter for the extension of I 73. Now, NCDOT, FHWA and AASHTO all agree that I 73 is extended north to Brian Boulevard. According to Bob Malme, the project to resign the loop has been let and should be done by early summer.
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rickmastfan67
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| Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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List of the new exit numbers vs. old exit numbers:
220(40) > 96 (picture here)
219(40) > 97A (picture here)
218(40) > 97B (picture here)
214(40) > 102
212(40) > 103
Also, IMO, I would add one or two shaping points between 97B and 102 because of how the highway curves crazily.  |
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rickmastfan67
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: |
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And one more thing I just remembered, the one exit number on the I-73 Future Greensboro file will also need to be changed.
95 > 96
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dfilpus
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According to NCDOT's application to AASHTO, the north end of I 73 in Greensboro is at Bryan Boulevard. However, NCDOT has put up an END I 73 sign at I 40.
Which endpoint should we use?
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| dfilpus wrote: | According to NCDOT's application to AASHTO, the north end of I 73 in Greensboro is at Bryan Boulevard. However, NCDOT has put up an END I 73 sign at I 40.
Which endpoint should we use? |
Well, I'm not Tim here, but if you can prove with some internal map or something like that, I would say put it @ Bryan Blvd. But Tim would have the final say on this.
Kinda the same way I view US-311 end. It's been approved by the AASHTO and it's already on the NCDOT maps. And it's been like that since 2003 and well overdue (IMO) to be extended here on the site. Consider the US-311 extension just like an hidden Interstate. It shows up on the map but not in the field (at least not yet), so it's fair game to add to the site IMO.
So Tim, comment away. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Some AASHTO approvals come before they are intended to be implemented. There's a non-existent but approved Alt US 219 in PA, for example.
Looking at Bob Malme's site for the signs that are up, I'd put the north end at I-40 and make the part to the north FI-73. |
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Updates have been submitted and are in the browser.
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