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yakra
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 Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:21 am Post subject: AASHTO SCOH USRN May 2015 |
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http://route.transportation.org/Documents/05%2014%202015%20Cheyenne,%20WY%20Report/SM%202015%20USRN%20SCOH%20REPORT.pdf
AR: U.S. 412 - establish as a spur, Paragould
Affirmative with the condition that the route be labeled as U.S. 412 By-pass
US412 & US49 will require edits.
AR: U.S. 412 - Relocation & Recognition of a Business Route, Hindsville
Already in the HB; nothing to do here.
AR: U.S. 412 - Relocation & Recognition of a Business Route, Huntsville
Already in the HB; nothing to do here.
CO: U.S. 6 - Elimination, Rifle
(Uhh... shouldn't this be Relocation?)
KY: US 60 - Relocation, Owensboro
KY: US 127 - Relocation, Albany
KY: US 127X - Recognition of a Business Route, Albany
Affirmative With Condition: that the route is labeled US 127 Business (the “X” cannot be used on the sign)
KY: I-69 - Establishment of an Interstate Route (I-69FutMad)
Ends at KY425.
Either the KY425 AudPkwy segment stays part of I-69Fut, or was erroneously included as USAIF in the first place.
KY: I-69 - Establishment of an Interstate Route (I-69Fut)
The end is listed as KY166. No direct interchange here, just some frontage roads. So, however we end up doing that...
Again, a little bit beyond the end (to the state line) stays part of I-69Fut, or was erroneously included as USAIF in the first place.
MI: US 10 - Establishment of US route
Car Ferry to Wisconsin. No changes to the WI file. MI may need a short extension to the ferry terminal.
MS: I-22 - Establishment of an Interstate Route
NE: US 77 - Relocation of a U.S. Route
Affirmative with Condition: If U.S. 77 does not get finalized by the city/county it can be assigned as a state road “SR” but not a “U.S.” Route. If NE wants to assign it as a U.S. route, the state must re-apply.
NE92 most likely gets relocated as well.
No free imagery to use yet (that I know of).
NC: I-485 - Extension of an Interstate Route (may have been approved already in 1996)
NC: US-17 - Relocation of a U.S. Route, Wilmington
Heh. Surprised this one went thru. Relocation from an interstate to an inferior facility...
NC: US-17 Business - Elimination of a U.S. Route, Wilmington
Less an elimination and more of a truncation. Some bits on each end become US17 proper again.
PA: US 202 BUS - Recognition of a Business on US Route, Montgomeryville - Doylestown
TX: I-169 - Establishment of an Interstate route
to Old Alice Road
TX: US 87 - Relocation & Recognition of a Business Route, Big Spring
No free imagery to use yet (that I know of). May not be open to traffic yet. Some detective work required.
It's in the designation files. Not on the Planning Map. County Grid Map?
TN: SR–840
Affirmative with condition: Tennessee must resubmit the application with the proper designation to Establish I-840 as it should be assigned.
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yakra
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Files I need to submit:
AR US49
AR US412
AR US412BypPar
TX I-69E
TX I-169
TX US77
TX US83
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dfilpus
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: |
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NC: The I-485 change go into effect Friday when the road opens. I need exit numbers for the new exits.
The US 17 changes will wait until they are signed. The changes will affect every route in Wilmington except I-140:
US 17, US 17 Business, US 74, US 76, US 117, US 421, NC 132, NC 133.
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dave1693
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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I presume that the US202 Business route from Montgomeryville to Doylestown will follow the previous route of US202 before the new "parkway" routing was built... in which case the routing is likely to be in database archive copies, if there are such.
While I will be in southeast PA this weekend I doubt I'll be doing the driving, so probably won't get a chance to confirm if signage is up. Maybe next month. |
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rickmastfan67
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| dave1693 wrote: | | I presume that the US202 Business route from Montgomeryville to Doylestown will follow the previous route of US202 before the new "parkway" routing was built... in which case the routing is likely to be in database archive copies, if there are such. |
That is correct. The new US-202 Business route is following the old US-202 route that was removed when it was moved onto the new parkway. |
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si404
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: AASHTO SCOH USRN May 2015 |
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| yakra wrote: | CO: U.S. 6 - Elimination, Rifle
(Uhh... shouldn't this be Relocation?) |
No, it's elimination, though a very short one (about a mile at most). While administrative (handing the road to the city) it will remove signs. However, it seems pointless to eliminate the section for such a short gap in official designation. |
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yakra
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| The fact that AASHTO would approve a gap in a mainline route like that, that's nuts... |
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Bickendan
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| Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| I'd argue for our purposes we should just realign it to I-70. |
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deanej
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| Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Colorado has always considered US 6 to not exist where it overlaps I-70. I agree that it should just be aligned on I-70 for CHM purposes. |
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si404
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| Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Bickendan wrote: | | I'd argue for our purposes we should just realign it to I-70. |
| deanej wrote: | | Colorado has always considered US 6 to not exist where it overlaps I-70. I agree that it should just be aligned on I-70 for CHM purposes. |
I take it you haven't seen what is to be eliminated. Here it is: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/39.5284529,-107.7943986/39.5288248,-107.7778714/@39.5292716,-107.7885573,15z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 (give or take a handful of metres at both ends). It's 0.13 miles of road east of CO13, and (presumably - the document just removes CO13 from here) most of the concurrency with CO13.
It doesn't make for a simple relocating to I-70 because it doesn't span two exits, and US6 either side of Rifle would continue to be signed as such (eg I-70 exit 87 to CO13 and west of the link road from exit 94). |
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yakra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Not sure how you got that. From the relevant section of the link in the OP:
| Quote: | | US 6D begins at MP 92.00 at the intersection with SH 13. It travels 18.857 miles easterly into and through the Towns of Rifle, Silt and New Castle, CO, over an existing pathway. US 6D ends at MP 110.806, where it rejoins I-70 at MP 109.002. |
Heh. I like how 92.00 + 18.857 = 110.806.
*Ahem.*
Lemme just suss this out as I go along... "the intersection with SH 13" by itself isn't very helpful. 110.806 - 18.857 = 91.949. Per Teh Googlz*, it's 91.9 mi to the beginning of the CO13 multiplex at existing waypoint CO13_N. Exact same distance if you knock off a couple sig figs.
So, let's say CO13 is, internally, just CO13. I propose we call it an implied multiplex (Q.V., search the forum) with first CO13 then I-70 to waypoint I-70(109).
*The forum software seems to gag now when I try to enclose the new gmaps URLs in [url] tags. So here's the link:
| Code: | | https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.19375,-109.0513333/39.5284624,-107.7970401/@39.3006376,-108.5810146,10z/data=!4m34!4m33!1m30!3m4!1m2!1d-108.8452336!2d39.2115043!3s0x874657a0b8841a79:0x44c31f35b6eb699a!3m4!1m2!1d-108.7919855!2d39.1854384!3s0x8746f8bbc3ef8be3:0xd792b57403de6be5!3m4!1m2!1d-108.692227!2d39.1344226!3s0x8746fdc65f61b52b:0x3200e29b0023aa!3m4!1m2!1d-108.5425159!2d39.0668821!3s0x87471c1476aab7ef:0x22a078cc29bd1d4f!3m4!1m2!1d-108.3283796!2d39.1086133!3s0x874726ca48d23699:0x42084f496f2ccb93!3m4!1m2!1d-107.8216707!2d39.5276555!3s0x874139ad68dfc285:0x484c846d204c84b6!1m0!3e0 |
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si404
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| Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| yakra wrote: | | Not sure how you got that. |
The submission document from Colorado DOT to AASHTO.
It explicitly says between MP 92.00 and 92.23 (sorry, I took 0.1 of a mile off the elimination - it's nearly a quarter mile, rather than 0.13 I had earlier!) and has maps showing the eliminated section. It goes from the junction of Railroad Av/CO13 to not even Clarkson Av.
| Quote: | From the relevant section of the link in the OP:
| Quote: | | US 6D begins at MP 92.00 at the intersection with SH 13. It travels 18.857 miles easterly into and through the Towns of Rifle, Silt and New Castle, CO, over an existing pathway. US 6D ends at MP 110.806, where it rejoins I-70 at MP 109.002. |
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Which is a description of US6D, not the actual elimination. |
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oscar_voss
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| dfilpus wrote: | The US 17 changes will wait until they are signed. The changes will affect every route in Wilmington except I-140:
US 17, US 17 Business, US 74, US 76, US 117, US 421, NC 132, NC 133. |
I was in Wilmington yesterday. No signage changes yet to reroute US 17 through downtown.
There's a new NC 140 freeway west of the city (not yet connected to I-140). I'll post more on that separately.
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